Meeting summary: Monero Research Lab, 7 December 2022
This is a comprehensive summary, with added reference links, of the MRL meeting1 from December 7th 2022, 1700 UTC.
Logs
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221207-mrl.log (83 lines)
Summary
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Participants: 11 (UkoeHB2, rbrunner3, Rucknium4, plowsof115, ArticMine6, ghostway7, jberman8, sneurlax9, blankpage10, h4sh3d11, hyc12)
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(1) Updates
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(1.1) on research papers (P2P network anonymity solutions, and Dandelion++13):
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Rucknium reported reading Sharma, P. K., Gosain, D., & Diaz, C. 2022. On the anonymity of peer-to-peer network anonymity schemes used by cryptocurrencies.14 and the original Dandelion++ paper15
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UkoeHB was working on cleanup/review on his seraphis_lib branch18, a process that should take 2-4 more weeks; he extended an invitation for PR reviews from that branch to upstream; UkoeHB also updated jamtis address tag hints to use blake2b instead of a layered cipher19
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UkoeHB explained the difference between address tags and address tag hints to blankpage
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jberman explained to blankpage that RID’s (recipient identifiers) are the proposed shortened version of very long seraphis addresses (they’re an easy-to-read hash of the address)
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jberman finished stress testing the pool and found a bottleneck + identified a couple changes for PR #807620: reducing trips to the daemon; he is planning to submit two pull requests: one to rbrunner’s branch and another to alleviate the existing bottleneck, before moving over to Seraphis impl work
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plowsof11 was wondering how long the community should wait before putting the peer review forward for funding, considering that there was no further contact with the bp++ author since the last email where he said he was working on adding security proofs; plowsof11 noted that he sent the last email on november 30th
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Rucknium suggested that the community might want to get the current paper reviewed if there is no update to it after 3 months
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UkoeHB thought 2 weeks of no contact is a good time frame for a follow-up; jberman agreed
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(2) Open discussions
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(2.1) on the research papers mentioned by Rucknium earlier in the meeting14’15:
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Rucknium was not completely convinced that improvements can be made to D++ anonymity with some changes to the parameters, as the Sharma, Gosain, & Diaz paper claims, noting that he does not find their analysis very realistic; Rucknium recommended that no action should be taken at this time and suggested waiting for updates or peer reviews
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UkoeHB was interested to hear vtnerd’s take on the paper
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Rucknium hinted at a potential conflict of interest (in suggesting that existing anon network systems do not work well), considering the fact that one of the authors of the Sharma, Gosain, & Diaz (2022) paper is the Chief Scientist for Nym Technologies
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(2.2) on Farcaster XMR-BTC atomic swaps23:
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h4sh3d mentioned that his team is finally reaching the end of last milestone for farcaster and after a final sprint, we can expect a Reddit post at the end of the week and a bit more info next research lab meeting: we’ll be near to release what we consider mainnet ready
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(2.3) on discussing research papers:
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blankpage was wondering if the moneroresearch.info annotation feature was being actively used in discussing research papers
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UkoeHB noted that papers should be discussed here and comments can optionally be back-filled into the site
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Rucknium acknowledged that the feature is not currently used much, but he hopes that it will be in the future: I will add a link to my comments here to the paper on MoneroResearch.info. We specifically chose the WIKINDX software for its annotation capabilities
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Let me know if you find this kind of report helpful.
Feedback, edits always welcome @/about.
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https://github.com/UkoeHB/ ↩
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https://github.com/rbrunner7/ ↩
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https://github.com/Rucknium/ ↩
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https://github.com/plowsof/ ↩
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https://libredd.it/user/ArticMine/ ↩
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@ghostway:matrix.org ↩
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https://github.com/j-berman/ ↩
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@sneurlax:matrix.org ↩
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@blankpage:matrix.org ↩
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https://github.com/h4sh3d/ ↩
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https://nitter.net/hyc_symas/ ↩
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https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/dandelion.html ↩
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https://moneroresearch.info/index.php?action=resource_RESOURCEVIEW_CORE&id=130 ↩ ↩2
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https://moneroresearch.info/index.php?action=resource_RESOURCEVIEW_CORE&id=122 ↩ ↩2
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https://github.com/UkoeHB/Seraphis ↩
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https://gist.github.com/tevador/50160d160d24cfc6c52ae02eb3d17024 ↩
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https://github.com/UkoeHB/monero/commits/seraphis_lib ↩
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https://gist.github.com/tevador/50160d160d24cfc6c52ae02eb3d17024?permalink_comment_id=4392414#gistcomment-4392414 ↩
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https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8076 ↩
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https://github.com/Liam-Eagen/BulletproofsPP/ ↩
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/plowsof-submits-ccs-proposal-bulletproofs++-paper-peer-review/ ↩
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https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/168 ↩