16:00:01 <ofrnxmr> Meeting time: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1482
16:01:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Hello folks!
16:02:58 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> Hola
16:03:01 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Good morning
16:04:52 <br-m> <syntheticbird> Hola
16:05:15 <ofrnxmr> I was contemplating pushing the meeting back by a week due to halloween and the repo being down, but decided last minute to proceed
16:05:42 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> hi
16:05:49 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Nothing like a MCW meeting for halloween (happy halloween folks, dont eat much candy)
16:05:58 <ofrnxmr> whole we wait for other to arrive, lets move to 3. Community highlights
16:07:58 <plowsof> Hello
16:08:04 <ofrnxmr> a couple of things happened since we last met. the repo was taken offline for reasons, and has yet to come back online, so no proposals have been merged, updated etc. 
16:08:53 <ofrnxmr> binance lost something like 6b, and none of the coins stolen were xmr
16:09:14 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> 2.6B if i recall correctly
16:09:21 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> 6B if you add the other exchanges that got compromised
16:09:34 <ofrnxmr> old versions of tor were deprecated/disabled, so a chunk of nodes using old versions went offline, as well as built-in tor support for feather stopped working
16:09:56 <ofrnxmr> slowbear, i didn tfollow the news closely, but i thought it was 5.9 from binance alone
16:10:00 <br-m> <syntheticbird> r/Monero is now allowing slop 100% low-effort ai generated contents
16:10:19 <ofrnxmr> @syn too bad im banned, otherwise id probably still not post
16:10:23 <br-m> <syntheticbird> pardon me I meant r/Monero is allowing quality/effort AI generated/assisted contents for 3 months as an experiment
16:10:25 <plowsof> Wow
16:10:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> experiment?
16:10:59 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> purpose?
16:12:18 <ofrnxmr> the CCS website redesign was implemented in hugo https://ccs.monerodevs.org/ , as well as the beta core website https://2740.beta.monerodevs.org
16:12:55 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> hugo is based
16:12:56 <ofrnxmr> a couple things here - the beta getmonero in hugo drops over 10000 lines of code and hundreds of dependencies as compared to astro
16:13:18 <br-m> <syntheticbird> AI-assisted contents/translations were already being tolerated on a case by case basis so it was just about asking community first and then set clearly what is allowed or not.
16:13:46 <ofrnxmr> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2740/files
16:14:20 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> holy bear
16:14:51 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> ofrnxmr: looks so colorful
16:15:15 <ofrnxmr> and the ccs website here https://ccs.monerodevs.org/
16:15:21 <ofrnxmr> oh, i already linked it
16:15:37 <br-m> <syntheticbird> It's so over, I failed my lord Astro. Hugo has won
16:15:39 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Who made the redesign of the main website?
16:15:48 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I cant remember 
16:15:49 <ofrnxmr> diego 
16:16:02 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> okok thanks
16:16:10 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Thank god for Hugo
16:16:10 <plowsof> Astro / npm  will never be on a live CCS site, sorry 
16:16:21 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I kinda love the illustrations ngl
16:17:02 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Oh no, theres a illustration of a dude wearing sandals with SOCKS
16:17:08 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> I’m still continuing with my CCS work as described in the proposal, can be ported to Hugo after completion in the same manner
16:17:42 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: North Korea doesn't like this idea
16:18:17 <br-m> <syntheticbird> plowsof: why would it be on a live CCS site ? You guys were planning on SSR ?
16:18:36 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> im personally in favor of the switch to hugo, if only for the dependency graph
16:18:41 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> even if only*
16:18:58 <plowsof> Static html cant change itself
16:19:05 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> me: for the line reduction
16:19:08 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> Im guessing in the background Core decided they dont like Node/Astro and had maintainers port everything to Hugo
16:19:15 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> But the line reduction is nice
16:19:17 <br-m> <syntheticbird> "maintainers"
16:19:35 <br-m> <syntheticbird> thx "maintainers"
16:19:59 <br-m> <syntheticbird> ok anyway understandable choice
16:20:33 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Next, plowsof can rewrite Cuprate in Zig /s
16:20:42 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/cRzFCeyjUkSjYWSsUBqWXqYV.png (Anyhow, mobile UX for my in progress work on the CCS page)
16:20:48 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Are my messages showing? Test test 123
16:20:51 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/hPZVftOlkQjHTvxjkkQOUMEo.png (IMG_6412.png)
16:21:26 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> @redsh4de:matrix.org: the pink of pig and the colors
16:21:34 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> together with the orange 
16:22:02 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> i get why they are chosen this way
16:22:22 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> it is somewhat functional to have different colors for the different stages 
16:22:32 <ofrnxmr> anything else going on in the community?
16:23:01 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> my wallet is in the chrome store
16:23:17 <ofrnxmr> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/releases/tag/v0.19.0.0-beta.3.1 stressnet 3.1 binaries were released a few days ago
16:23:46 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> ofrnxmr: thats the one that fixes the carrot bug ? 
16:23:50 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> already playin w it
16:24:09 <ofrnxmr> yea
16:24:11 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @spirobel:kernal.eu: can you paste link?
16:24:18 <ofrnxmr> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/monerochan-wallet/jenajmckdpejhndnkklphofjdnapcome
16:24:22 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> @syntheticbird: monerochan.cash 
16:24:23 <br-m> <syntheticbird> thx
16:24:49 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> also here is the lib https://github.com/monerochan-ecosystem/monero-wallet-api
16:24:54 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> gracias spirobel
16:25:17 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> UI takes me back to old keygens... 
16:25:21 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> yapping about the features https://x.com/spirobel/status/2114000029551829298
16:25:44 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> i working on something mobile now 
16:26:10 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> omg i wasnt following you
16:27:00 <ofrnxmr> https://monero.observer/ still reporting, others not listed due to nothing updated for months
16:27:25 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> ofrnxmr: is there somewhere a writeup about the carrot bug or is it more an implementation of the stressnet bug ? 
16:27:28 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: Or mentioned so they dont start drama*
16:27:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> basicswap had 2 big updates - 0.19.0 and 0.19.1. haveno was also updated this week
16:28:15 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> btw i also vibe coded a thing to search all the content of the xmrchat creators 
16:28:22 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> and see what is the most popular 
16:29:06 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> it is linked in the navbar from https://monerochan.news 
16:29:10 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @spirobel:kernal.eu: for the inflation issue, its mostly in the linked pr, and the privact issue is in xmrack's claude review repo
16:31:09 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: this pr ? https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/501
16:31:27 <ofrnxmr> ok, lets move on to..
16:31:32 <ofrnxmr> 4. CCS proposals
16:32:32 <ofrnxmr> there have been no additions since the last meeting, since the repo is down. jackie closed his proposal, so just 1 reduction
16:32:46 <ofrnxmr>  a. acx - q4 monfluo part time
16:33:07 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1
16:33:18 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1
16:33:37 <ofrnxmr> there were no objections at the last meeting, but also, many people in attendance decided not to vote on the majority of the proposals. if youre here, please vote -1 | 0 
16:33:43 <ofrnxmr> | +1 
16:34:24 <ofrnxmr> or, state that any changes etc youd like
16:34:58 <ofrnxmr> if you dont want to vote here, please do so via thumb up/down/comment on the repo when it is revived
16:35:32 <ofrnxmr>  b. gingeropolous - continued Monerosim work and experimentation, MRC repair / improvements
16:35:44 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but please vote, COMMUNITY workgroup meeting...
16:35:51 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: +1
16:35:58 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (i already left my feedback for all of the proposals on the repo iirc)
16:36:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> my note on the ginger ccs is that it mixed 2 mostly unrelated things, and they should be detached / separate proposals
16:37:05 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> 0
16:37:28 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> +1 for acx
16:38:24 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (unrelated things = payment for hardware upgrades, and then ~30k to vibe with monerosim updates)
16:38:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> from memory.. might be more or less
16:39:21 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> @spirobel:kernal.eu: i read this now. https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/499 seems like an integer overflow bug not related to carrot 
16:39:56 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah, i think boog and selsta cleared that up in lounge
16:40:38 <ofrnxmr>  c. j-berman - part-time development (3 months)
16:41:04 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1
16:41:15 <plowsof> Just to be on record replying to redshade 'just port it to hugo' : it would be sane to at least drop certain milestones and adjust others. such as the 2nd one wrt docs/ci/handover - theyre done and would be pissing community funds up the wall. 
16:41:20 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1
16:41:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: also the xmr rate has changes, so probably fully funded at this point in any case
16:42:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (asking amount is probably filled or close to it)
16:43:26 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: this one ? https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lounge/20261030#c717623 
16:44:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lounge/20261031#c717777
16:44:29 <ofrnxmr>  d. jpk68 - full-time q4
16:44:49 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1
16:44:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1
16:45:05 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and congrats on being fully funded via the community
16:45:20 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> celebration noises
16:45:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the other open proposals had some nice donations as well
16:46:03 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Thank you for the support, everyone
16:46:36 <ofrnxmr>  e. silverpill - monero-rs maintenance
16:47:06 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird:monero.social: has this been discussed at all in curapte channels?
16:48:01 <br-m> <syntheticbird> I recall it, I think during last meeting. But I don't follow closely monero-oxide discussion you should ask @boog900:monero.social instead
16:48:13 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> useless /s
16:48:34 <br-m> <syntheticbird> and proud of it
16:48:43 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> 0 (don't know the details, same as with b.)
16:48:51 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> is silverpill here
16:48:59 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> i remember he made mitra
16:49:05 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its 0 from me too, since i dont know anything about it
16:49:06 <br-m> <syntheticbird> mitra social?
16:49:13 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> yes 
16:49:14 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @kayabanerve:matrix.org: had discussed it before
16:49:18 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> 0
16:49:49 <ofrnxmr>  f. Dennis Trautwein - ProbeLab P2P Network Metrics Proposal
16:49:59 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> -1
16:50:02 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> -1
16:50:09 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> -1
16:50:24 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> We have been dragging this one for a long time and doesn't seem that there is interest to merge this
16:50:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> cant close it cuz repo is down
16:50:39 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> also
16:50:59 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> I'd say 0, because it already has enough -1 🙈
16:51:02 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://observer.monerodevs.org does everything and more
16:51:20 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> And better imho
16:52:00 <ofrnxmr>  g. v1docq47 - monero konferenco 2026 voice-over and working on xmr.ru
16:52:15 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1
16:52:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> +!
16:52:28 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1 its cheap, we been draggin' it as well
16:52:53 <ofrnxmr>  h. SNeedlewoods - part-time dev Q4 '26
16:53:12 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1
16:53:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> +1
16:53:22 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> 0 :P
16:53:45 <ofrnxmr>  i. slowbeardigger - takeover/repurpose monero integrations
16:53:56 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> +1
16:53:59 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> +1
16:54:34 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Monerowp ready for review, working on monerophp, next week will open PRs for updating the existing integrations
16:54:40 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> after that, will work on readiness for fcmp++/carrot with serhack 
16:54:47 <br-m> <sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1
16:54:52 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> gracias guys 
16:55:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: any input on this https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2733
16:55:42 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> does monerocheckout alrdyae exist?
16:55:49 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> lemme check
16:56:26 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> its me or the comments sounds super AI?
16:56:26 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i dont mean input on whether to list it - we dont list immature projects. im more asking if monerocheckout is already an existing name
16:56:36 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its obviously 100% ai
16:56:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> or at least 98%
16:57:17 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> can follow up later. just thought id ask since youre the integrations guy soon
16:57:21 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> it is an existing name
16:57:36 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> https://xmrcheckout.com/
16:57:54 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> https://github.com/xmrcheckout/xmrcheckout
16:58:05 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ups
16:58:21 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but yeah this project uses that name
16:58:26 <ofrnxmr> we can wrap up here. thanks everyone
16:58:53 <ofrnxmr> next meeting sat nov 14, 2026 @ 1600 UTC